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Money Challenge Finale and Summer Games Begin (#59)

June 07, 2022 DxT Season 1 Episode 59
Money Challenge Finale and Summer Games Begin (#59)
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Money Challenge Finale and Summer Games Begin (#59)
Jun 07, 2022 Season 1 Episode 59


Let us save you some money lessons after our month of trying to beat the sports betting bookies and the wall street conmen. But even better, it's a new month and a new challenge! Welcome to the June Summer Games episode! We'll not be doing this challenge solo, we've got teams and full-on competition going down this summer.

Find out more at:

Thanks for listening!

Much Love, Fam!

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Let us save you some money lessons after our month of trying to beat the sports betting bookies and the wall street conmen. But even better, it's a new month and a new challenge! Welcome to the June Summer Games episode! We'll not be doing this challenge solo, we've got teams and full-on competition going down this summer.

Find out more at:

Thanks for listening!

Much Love, Fam!

YouTube: Dead by Tomorrow
Instagram: @DeadxTomorrow
Facebook: DeadxTomorrow
LinkedIn: Dead by Tomorrow
Twitter: @DeadxTomorrow

[00:00:00] Daniel: Hi guys, and welcome to the dead by tomorrow podcast. My name is Daniel winter and my co-host is Andrew Monroe in each episode, Andrew and I will explore topics that you should think about before you die. We encourage you to remember that some tomorrow will be your last, so each day could be your final chance to really. 

[00:00:19] Andrew: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to dead by tomorrow. Where as always thrilled to have you in we're here with us. Uh, we just finished. R may slash make that money challenge. Uh, it was pretty fun. it's been a good time. So we're going to go over that over in this episode. And then we also have our next challenge coming up, which I don't know about Daniel, but I'm pretty dang excited about, I think Daniel is too.

[00:00:45] Andrew: We've been going back and forth on it for a hot minute, last few days. So let's jump right into it. Daniel, how'd you do with the challenge? Give me the skinny on what you learned and what the end results were for.

[00:00:58] Daniel: I don't know if I learned a ton of things. I, I guess I technically learned what. It means to bet the spread and some of the rationale behind that, we, we talked a little bit about that last time around, um, I guess the numbers tell me that I'm better at sports betting than options betting. , but that's probably only limited to the MBA and the stock market has been just a hot dumpster fire, which, you know, I, I guess I could have played puts better for.

[00:01:28] Daniel: that, but the puts are actually where.

[00:01:31] Daniel: More money than, than anything else. So finishing out the month, I ended up up about $30 in the sports betting world. So, you know, a positive 30% and then ended up down about $75 in the options world. So I didn't lose all of my money. I didn't have to buy back in, but I did not overall come out profit. How'd you turn out. 

[00:02:01] Andrew: So I did have to buy back in on the sports betting. Um, and it's funny. So this was one of those challenges, I think you and I were actually off by a couple days. I think you started basically, as soon as we finished the two episodes ago, I think you hit the ground running. And then I waited for whatever reason, like three or four days to start the challenge.

[00:02:22] Andrew: So we were like, Four days off, I think on starting and therefore ending, if I would have ended when you ended, I would have been like $300 up. And I would have said at the time that I failed successfully at this challenge, because I was really, really wanting to dig a lot deeper into how. Like reading candlestick charts we talked about and just really get a better financial background on it.

[00:02:51] Andrew: Learn a lot about sports betting and, you know, learn some strategies. I really wanted it to be more educational than not, um, did not get to do that, but I was, uh, whenever [00:03:00] you finished the challenge, like 300 and something dollars up, and then the next two days, uh, came through and I was really trying to stretch it, to get that thousand dollar mark I wanted to get.

[00:03:10] Andrew: And so it took some really. Heavy losses, uh, trying to really multiply that money. And so I ended up technically $31 a head. So I made $1 a day almost, which I could have just not gotten coffee, like four or five days. And made the same amount of money, which I definitely did not do. I had coffee every day, this month.

[00:03:31] Andrew: So, um, did not learn anything on that front. Uh, I did make a couple of hail Mary bets at the very end. Uh, they'll pay, hopefully pay off tomorrow on the last NBA game will probably be. But, uh, as of the end of the challenge, I went from $300 up to $31 in the last three days. So that really stunk. It was good.

[00:03:54] Andrew: I really enjoyed it. Uh, this was an interesting time to be in the stock market because we've had some, at least from what I can tell some weird swings, like there were days where I was playing poets, killing it. And then. I would just get crushed because the stock market would just explode and just, it would go green up the wazoo and I'd be like, all right, let's play some calls and I'd play some calls and I would be killing it.

[00:04:17] Andrew: And then the market would crash again. Uh, and for instance, on that last, last couple of days, we're talking about a Wednesday, Thursday this past week. Um, I had a Netflix and a Lulu lemon put and. I got banned pretty early on from the day trader status while we were doing this challenge. Cause I thought I was going to swap over to tasty works, which was a really cool platform that I do not understand.

[00:04:42] Andrew: And so I hadn't been really worrying about Robin hood. Thing where, like you don't have $25,000 in your account, you can't make more than five day trades. So in this case, you know, buying Lou lemon as a put, I would have been able to sell before three o'clock again, and I would have made like $600 on Thursday, I think, Wednesday or Thursday, um, with Lulu and Netflix, uh, they ex well, okay.

[00:05:08] Andrew: They tanked my, my calls exploded. They were like 400% a piece. It was amazing. I was thrilled. They went through the roof, but I couldn't sell them because Robin hoods locked me out. I was like, it's okay. First thing, tomorrow morning, I'm going to sell them. And then I'm going to spin around and get the calls.

[00:05:24] Andrew: And so I was like, yeah, oh, this must have been Thursday morning because the calls didn't work out either. So Thursday morning comes along and market opens and those. 400% return on those puts evaporate. It was just gone a Netflix and Lulu shot through the roof. I was like, well, dang it. So I sold them for a big loss and then spun around and bought the calls.

[00:05:46] Andrew: And again, I couldn't trade them same day. So I had to wait until Friday morning to sell the calls. I was like, it's okay. We'll see what happens. So they both, they went through the roof again. And so I was like, okay, we're we're back. [00:06:00] Even. I was actually up another chunk, like 400 bucks, 500 bucks. I can't remember.

[00:06:04] Andrew: They, they both just went through the roof and I was like, okay, this makes up for not getting to sell the puts, but it's fine. She's got to wait until tomorrow morning to sell these since Robin has a jerk. So Friday morning market opened again. They evaporated again, uh, both stocks just crashed to the floor, lost it.

[00:06:24] Andrew: So that's where, uh, that's where all that money went. It was disappointing and really weird to watch because those were some heavy, heavy swings. Um, Lulu had their earnings come out. Uh, Netflix just for no reason, uh, was doing that kind of stuff. Not no reason, but, uh, they, they shouldn't have been moving that much.

[00:06:43] Andrew: So it was pretty interesting. Yeah. Especially for the end of the challenge, but, uh, we got some cool charts. It looks like I was doing well. If you look at the charts.

[00:06:53] Daniel: yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's what I've seen overall with playing options is it is. Uh, critical timing game. And also it's one of those, like, you gotta bring enough money to the table to play with like Netflix and Lulu and apple and some of these, um, because the thing is with, with options, the more, the more volatile the.

[00:07:20] Daniel: The option, the more expensive it can be. And so the things that are swinging wildly, where you can, all of the sudden be up like $400, generally, there's a little bit of a premium to get an in play that game. And the things that tend to be a little stable and not really move all that much. Yeah.

[00:07:38] Daniel: It's not as much money to get it in there and play with them, but you're also not going to like double your money in the span of 30 days. 

[00:07:45] Andrew: Yeah, a hundred percent. It, it definitely is not a cheap game to be able to see those kinds of stuff, uh, move like that, um, on the sports betting. You and I almost came out, I don't know what you were putting on the line for that last warriors versus heats game that we should have had in the bank. But man, I would have, I was going to kill it on the sports betting if they would've won that game.

[00:08:13] Andrew: Uh, I had a whole bunch of stuff going and we just a couple more points parlays would have paid off. Um, I think I had. A chunk, I'm not sure, maybe a hundred dollars, which was a whole had left in my sports betting, which was, it was a hundred dollars up. So, but I put it all in. Um, it didn't work out. And then I got screwed on the Nadolol game because the other guy forfeit, and apparently that doesn't count as a win.

[00:08:40] Andrew: So I don't know.

[00:08:42] Daniel: Then the doll thing is wild to me. 

[00:08:45] Andrew: Not really, that really bugged me for those check out the chart. I'll give you all the quick highlight. I bet on the doll beating some guy hadn't heard of it, cause it's an adult. And for those of you who don't play tennis or know much about tennis and a doll has been dominant for [00:09:00] years, um, he's probably not going to be for a few more years.

[00:09:05] Andrew: Like, he'll start losing some stuff, but right now he is just dominant and he has been for awhile. So he's an easy bet. So I bet on him and I made some really weird bets. Like I was like, oh yeah, he's good. When these sets, um, they're all going to be seven to six and I made a second, but I was like, just in case he blows out the warm he's going to want to set six.

[00:09:24] Andrew: Oh. And then my third was that he wins the game period and he technically won because the other guy forfeited the first two sets were seven, six, um, and then six, six with Nidal about twin seven, six again. So. I technically in my mind should have won all of them because in the third set was a forfeit and he won three sets because it's three out of five and that would have been six.

[00:09:48] Andrew: Oh. And so I don't know how have you sliced it? I should have won some money, but they just canceled everything and just refunded me like. What I bet, which was really disappointed because basically I just got my money back. So that was a bummer, uh, should have been able to be at least a hundred bucks positive if they would've counted, involves when, but oh, well,

[00:10:12] Daniel: Yeah. I feel like that's the thing that I learned on the sports betting is it's, it's also kind of tough to have big swings. You've got to stick with it a while, or you got to make some wild, but that's that you get lucky on. Cause I mean, 30%. Not bad. The problem is that I was only willing to play with a hundred dollars.

[00:10:35] Daniel: If I had been willing to play with like a thousand dollars, then that'd be pretty cool. Or if I was like some, I imagined professional sports betters playing with, you know, tens of thousands of dollars and I'd be pumped to have had a 30% return in the past month.

[00:10:50] Andrew: Yeah. And when you compound that, that's awesome. 

[00:10:53] Daniel: Yeah.

[00:10:55] Daniel: but it's one of those, you know, you gotta, you gotta either be willing to put up a lot of money in order to make a lot of money or you just got to get really, really lucky.

[00:11:07] Daniel: But these partly that's and the thing about those is they, there are things. Could happen, but they zero minutes so well that, you know, you're, you're really paying attention the whole time. Cause it's really close to happening. And then a lot of times it doesn't like the only player specific that, that I did where I was like, okay, you know, this has like a.

[00:11:31] Daniel: I would triple my bet. If this hit was, I did one that Steph Curry would get a double, double, and a gamut gets the Mavs and he was one assist away from going to double, double. So close. Of course, I was like zeroed in on that game. I was super focused cause I'm like, he's right there. He's right there. And.

[00:11:51] Daniel: You know, it was the difference of he kind of tweaked his ankle early in the quarter, you know, missed a few minutes that he normally would have played. And also towards the end of the game, it kind of [00:12:00] became a little bit more of a blowout. So he didn't didn't play as many minutes. Didn't get that last. 

[00:12:06] Andrew: Isn't it is. I want to S I want to know who is setting these. We talked about last stuff. So because it is there within like singular happenstance points, it seems, but consistently. Like, if you're looking at like, Hey, if you don't hit it, they win. If you do hit it, you win. They're that one point away consistently that you don't win.

[00:12:29] Andrew: Like it's, it's like blackjack hitting a 22 over and over and over again. You're like, this doesn't make sense, but they, they they've got it down. It's bizarre. Uh, so that would actually be probably one of the main things I learned was one, um, Really, really try not to hold options overnight. Uh, that's been something a lot of people have said, but if you're not playing with a really big money, um, or playing really long on some options, uh, I mean, that's what most people don't do.

[00:13:02] Andrew: Most people with options are playing shorts. So if you're playing the shorts, I don't hold overnight because it just is very unlikely to go your way. And then. On the sports betting do not do the parlay bets. Uh, that that just bled me dry, doing little onesy, twosy, five Z dollar bets on these parlay bets that every single one of them was a loss.

[00:13:30] Andrew: I think I might've won one, but just mind blowing how, uh, how close almost all of them got for me to still lose. So there there's statistical analysis is way better than. You were, I can do on our own.

[00:13:45] Daniel: Yeah, no 

[00:13:46] Andrew: All right. Is there anything else you want to cover on the money before we get to what is dying to be let out from me, which is our fifth challenge.

[00:13:56] Daniel: That's, what's dying to be let out. I was worried about what you're going to say there. 

[00:14:01] Andrew: I don't want to know what you're going to. Probably just going to hurt my feelings.

[00:14:06] Daniel: No, let's get into it. Let's let's talk the summer game. 

[00:14:10] Andrew: Okay. It was your idea. Uh, I'm pretty sure. So you introduce it, give us the rundown and all, uh, jump in with anything. I think what needs to be added after you're done.

[00:14:21] Daniel: you know, this, this whole thing is just a classic example of when Andrew and I collaborate and work on something, I think. Summed up most perfectly when I was down the street and I was talking to Brett and he was telling me about y'all's team name and his wife, Angela was standing there and, you know, he needed to give her kind of the full context on why.

[00:14:47] Daniel: He's coming up with a team name and all of this. And he was like, okay, well, you know, you remember how we did some, some like pushup challenges and stuff during COVID? Well, you know, we were talking about how that might be fun to do [00:15:00] the summer. And then all of a sudden, now we have teams and we have team names and we have t-shirts and we have trackers and we have like MVPs and all of this kind of stuff.

[00:15:15] Daniel: You know, it's kind of turned into a whole big thing and hopefully our crew is in for it. Um, cause Andrew and I are way excited, but basically what we're doing is for the month of June, we have four weeks that we're looking at these different challenges. So we're going to do a step challenge. We're going to do a pushup challenge.

[00:15:39] Daniel: We're going to do a mile time challenge. We're going to do a pull-up challenge and. Our, uh, our challenges are going to be team-based. So my team it's me and Jason and Jonathan, um, all been on the podcast before should be familiar to our listeners. And then Andrew has a team. So it's Andrew and Brett and Colton which you're, uh, we're already ahead.

[00:16:05] Daniel: Cause our whole team has been on the podcast. I don't think your whole team's been on.

[00:16:08] Andrew: Colton was actually supposed to be on almost exactly this time last year. And then it just kept falling through, kept falling through and, and here we are a year later, we just haven't pursued it with them.

[00:16:19] Daniel: Fair enough. Maybe, maybe we'll get him to come in and. Uh, make game update. But, um, so those are our teams and the way that it's going to work is your team. Like for our, our step challenge, we started this week. So every day you, you record, you send a screenshot of your steps and whichever team's able to accumulate the most steps by the end of the week.

[00:16:41] Daniel: When's the point for the week. And the one nuance that we threw in there is that each one. The team gets to select one person to be the captain for the week and their score is doubled. So everybody has to be a captain. Um, there'll be one person That get to repeat, but there's a little bit of strategy on, you know, who, who are you going to pick as your captain?

[00:17:02] Daniel: Who's the other team gonna to pick? Cause we don't reveal them until the start of the week and you lock them in. So that's, that's the goal is steps this week. Next week, it's going to be, um, one set max on pushup. Um, the following week as fast as smile time. And then we're going to close it out with one set max on polo.

[00:17:25] Andrew: that's pretty broad brush strokes of it. Uh, just so everybody's aware, basically Daniel and, uh, with my excited, uh, participation we've shanghaied, uh, the group of guys we play video games with, and two for the most part play video games with, sorry, Jason, to, uh, doing a challenge with us this time. So we, uh, took her.

[00:17:50] Andrew: Fifth challenge, which is going to be physical again. Cause we have been trying to, you know, alternate if y'all are keeping up here. And so we're going to do something physical anyways, and this is [00:18:00] probably something Daniel and I would have done anyways and now it's become some competition and I'm just, it makes me that much more excited for it.

[00:18:08] Andrew: Honestly, I just, I love it. Whenever we got teams going at each other, um, to trash talk. I'm really bad at trash talk. That'll get there. So it's just a lot more exciting than me. Just, you know, calling Daniel names as we're competing or challenging each other on something in, uh, him blasting me back and me having to go back to my room to cry because I don't have a good comeback.

[00:18:29] Andrew: So hopefully I'll have some support from the guys on this one.

[00:18:33] Daniel: Yeah.

[00:18:33] Daniel: no, I'm, I'm excited. Cause we were kind of talking about. Doing something like when, when fit, that kind of became all the rage, um, a bunch of us got and you could do weekly step challenges, um, within the app. And we kind of went a little crazy doing these step challenges, like. Had the building security called on me several times.

[00:18:53] Daniel: Cause I would just walk up and down our stairwells in the office, um, in between calls and things like that. And so we were a little crazy on that. Like I mentioned, Brett and Andrew and I did some COVID challenges with pushups and a few different things like that. And so it's just, it's like Andrew said, it's something that we might be doing anyway, but it's fun to do with other people.

[00:19:15] Daniel: It's kind of a. An accountability measure. That was one thing that, as we were talking about this Jonathan mentioned, he was like, Hey, you know, it'd be, it'd be cool if we could do something. Um, as far as the team goes, cause I'd be a lot more motivated to not let the team down. And so of course it's fun to do the trash talk.

[00:19:35] Daniel: I really want my team to win. I think we're going to totally win. But even if we don't, if you know, um, Being more active if Jonathan and Jason are being more active and are able to see some of that benefit, like that would be super cool. Like that's my goal is team six pack by the end of the summer. 

[00:19:59] Andrew: That's what y'all's name should have been. Uh, also just so I can make sure it shows up in the show notes, uh, that song you sent me is going to get me through most of the workouts here, the ninja Archer. It was it's just the best. So check the show notes for Andrew's latest favorite song that Daniel's sent in because it is phenomenal.

[00:20:18] Andrew: Just absolutely amazing. Okay. I was going to ask you, cause you know, we want to talk about what we're going to do for our challenge and how we're going to accomplish and everything like that. But, and in the fairness of competition, I won't put you on the spot first. So. If you want to give away some secrets after I'm done, feel free, but here's kind of my plan with, and just to recap, we've got steps which started today.

[00:20:43] Andrew: So total chemo step challenges this week. And, uh, I'm the captain this week. That's the only one that I thought I might have a chance of winning, honestly. So there we are. Uh, and it is it next week is the pushups. And then we've got. The mile [00:21:00] slash bike time for the third week. And then the final week of June, we have the pull-ups.

[00:21:05] Andrew: My strategy going forward is I'm going to be obviously walking a lot of gut Jasper who is just an unending battery of energy. So might as well take him on some more walks, but while that's going on this week, I'm going to really start ramping up the pull ups and the pushups and the runs. And obviously the runs will help my step count and start trying to.

[00:21:28] Andrew: He had a little bit higher volume. We've talked about it a while back. And I don't even remember which episode it was, but there's that grease the wheel greased groove mindset from the Russian guy who does all the kettlebell stuff. And he's just crazy where instead of doing, you know, like a traditional bro, three by 10 pushups, you know, one hour a day or something like that, whenever you do in chest, um, it's like, Hey, do three or five pushups every hour on the hour.

[00:21:57] Andrew: All the time. And so that's one of their big ways to get pull ups in and increase your pull. At times that's like a big, uh, part of the book, um, called the naked warrior, which is what a great book title, like who doesn't want to be a naked warrior. Okay. That's probably redundant. It's probably just me, but I think it's a great title.

[00:22:17] Andrew: So in the naked war, he talks about it and that's one of the ways that the. Advise getting your pull-up game up. So I'm going to be trying to treat that with the miles and the pushups and the pull ups, and just kinda hopefully be able to recover fast enough and really catch up to really you and Bray who are blowing me out of the water on the pull-up game.

[00:22:37] Andrew: And there's just no chance I'm catching up on the running game, but maybe I can beat Jason and Jonathan. That's the hope.

[00:22:45] Daniel: Yeah.

[00:22:46] Daniel: I mean, that's, that's my, my personal strategy. That's how I set up our team. Tracker is putting a space in every single day, whether it's pull up or push up week or not a space to go in and log the pushups that you're doing, the pull-ups that you're doing, you know, the miles that you're running the idea with.

[00:23:07] Daniel: Try to encourage, Hey, like do this stuff now pull ups is probably the most challenging exercise that we're doing. And I was intentional on putting that at the end of the month because I would venture a guess that the average person can't do a single pull-up. And so, you know, I don't know where all of our crew is out on that.

[00:23:32] Daniel: I know, I know where Brett's out on that. Far far beyond the average human. Um, but I, I don't know where Jonathan's out. I don't know where Jason's out, where Colton's at, um, with the pull up game. And so if they're in a spot where they can't do one right now, well, there's a pretty decent chance that if they spend some time on it, these, you know, three weeks, four weeks leading up until the end of the month, hopefully they can do, you know, at least one or two in.

[00:23:59] Daniel: And that again [00:24:00] would be an. We are team like we want to win. I'm super competitive, always, but it would also be really cool if by the end of the month, Jonathan's like, Hey, I can do, you know, five pull-ups again, I haven't done that since high school, or maybe he's already doing five pull-ups and he's going to do 20.

[00:24:20] Daniel: I don't know where everybody's at, but that, you know, that personal progress would be really. 

[00:24:27] Andrew: No, I like it. That's that's the hope my, so on the pull ups, I'm just going to give some spoilers here. It sounds like Daniel and Brett are both hitting the 25 plus pull-up mark, which is inhuman, just mind-boggling I'm probably closer to the eight to 10 pull up range. And that's, that's probably being pretty generous with what councils have pull up near the end.

[00:24:50] Andrew: So I didn't. Not the worst I've been, but it's definitely not the best I've been. So that's something I really want to up on. Um, pushups. I honestly have no idea where I'm at on the pushups. We've talked about this before. I've hacked on some, some weight. And that definitely affects a lot of body weight exercises, but, uh, we'll see.

[00:25:10] Andrew: And then my runtime is a Bismal. I'm really excited because I've been telling myself for what a year and a half now, since I was like, Hey, I think I can run again properly. I should really get back into running. And this is to Daniel for the most part. I'm like, Hey, it looks like I can run on this knee again.

[00:25:24] Andrew: I should probably get doing that. And that's been like a year and a half. So I I'm really excited about this channel. For working on the run. And I think that will transition into kind of upping my stuff on the pull-ups and I'm really not worried about the pushups, but I probably should be just for the fact that I'm not, but, uh, yeah, I'm excited.

[00:25:41] Andrew: This is exactly the kind of challenge I needed. So I'm pumped. I know. Brett is always excited about physical stuff, because again, he's inhuman and then Colton, this is going to be really good because we were working out together for awhile and I'm not throwing them under the bus or anything, but we're working out for a while.

[00:26:00] Andrew: And then his job schedule changed a little bit and he wasn't able to work out with me anymore. And the hope was, or the plan was he was going to go work out on his own. But from talking with them, I know that's been quite the struggle. Uh, he has really improved his 

[00:26:14] Daniel: stuff on your own. 

[00:26:15] Andrew: Oh, it is it's, it's tough. It's really hard to be like, Hey, I'm tired and it's been a long day.

[00:26:22] Andrew: Or, you know, I just woke up because you're doing super early stuff and it's like, I'm going to, by myself, go show up somewhere. And I mean, it's almost like going to eat by yourself, which is really hard for a lot of. But then you're also have to then suffer, like actually stuff. You're not getting to like, have a nice meal at red lobster by yourself at the bar.

[00:26:41] Andrew: It's like, cool. I'm here. And now I've got to put in work and motivate myself and not cheat the system and all that stuff. It's tough. So he's been doing great on his diet from what he said, but I know he's been kind of struggling on showing up on the physical side. So I think this is going to be great for him too.

[00:26:56] Andrew: So I'm pumped.

[00:26:59] Daniel: Yeah, [00:27:00] I'm looking forward to it. I'm hopeful. It will be. Something we can continue throughout the summer and, and like always we encourage audience participation. So if you guys are hearing this and you're like, yeah, Um,

[00:27:13] Daniel: I can crush pushups, like send us a text, let us know what, what your one set max is. Let us know what, what you're rocking on.

[00:27:21] Daniel: Pull-ups if you're your hidden crazy mile times rate. If you're not let us know, we'd love to give you a shout out and let you join in on the summer games. 

[00:27:33] Andrew: Absolutely. Uh, real quick before we close this out, uh, we didn't talk about who's team is who's what our team names were. 

[00:27:42] Daniel: oh, yes. Yeah.

[00:27:44] Daniel: So we are we're teams Thunderclap. Um, that is in honor of our, uh, our friend Kurt it's, you know, maybe a little bit in honor of the whole as well. But mostly, mostly Kurt, which I'm super excited for our team shirts. We've got, um, Kurt calling down the lightning of heaven for a Thunderclap. Um, as a image on the back, I kind of opted for a little bit of the love and thunder color scheme tech scheme, a little bit with the wording on the shirts.

[00:28:20] Daniel: And so, Yeah.

[00:28:21] Daniel: we're going to work. Defin your team with our Thunderclap. So hopefully sets you up there for your. 

[00:28:32] Andrew: So when we started, uh, before I, I guess it was, I don't know if y'all actually picked center clap or not yet, you know, we're pretty quick to pull that one out. Uh, so props there for y'all quick. Decision-making. We struggled with a team name and we were going to go with team, no knees because Brett and I have both had destroyed our knees at different points.

[00:28:58] Andrew: Um, and so we were not happy knee people there. And then Colton, uh, hasn't actually done. Damage officially in any like medically diagnosed way, but he has bad knees. We've talked about it. He doesn't run because of it. Um, a lot of the times we were in the gym together, it was like, yeah, my knees are not going to let me either do this or that or whatever it was.

[00:29:21] Andrew: So we've, we've got a team of. Needless men. And so we were, oh, needless men would have been a great name to dang it. But, uh, we, we decided not to focus on our weaknesses here and we wanted to be the antithesis to the Thunderclap teams. We went with team hush, uh, some of the very intimidating, I think. Um, but that's where we're at team hush, our shirt.

[00:29:50] Andrew: Admittedly, it's not as cool. I regret that. And maybe halfway through this, I will make it up to the rest of my team and get us new shirts. But we just have [00:30:00] like a, I thought it was going to be funny to have like a really traditional kind of sports looking logo thing. That's like, oh, you obviously played for like a local soccer team or something, you know, on the shirt.

[00:30:11] Andrew: Uh, this goofy bunch of dudes doing pushups and pull-ups to see who's better. So right. Our team hush, when I'll try and throw a picture up in the show nights alongside Daniels. Um, maybe we'll get some real pictures of us wearing the shirts and that'll even be better to put in the update episode. I know mine are still like a week out because Printful, which is the platform.

[00:30:29] Andrew: I think Daniel and I both used to get the shirts made. It just sometimes takes like three to five or seven days for ships or for the shirts to ship because that's what print on demand does. Sometimes if you don't have the design. Pre-created and printed on shirts. I'm not sure how it works, but yeah, I'm pretty excited about it.

[00:30:50] Andrew: About team hush on the name. I think it's going to strike fear into you loud boys as hearts.

[00:31:01] Daniel: Uh, loud boys. 

[00:31:03] Andrew: You see the irony there because I'm usually the loud one.

[00:31:07] Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. It is ironic. I do have to point out that your team is, is a reaction to our team. So, I mean, you're, you're already on your back foot from the 

[00:31:18] Andrew: Oh, it's a reaction just like nuclear, fission, fusion, nuclear fusion, I think is the one I'm going 

[00:31:25] Daniel: Hey, you tried. It's 

[00:31:27] Andrew: y'all split an atom, but, but we're bringing that reactionary process to you. Uh, you guys thought you were a Thunderclap, but we're just going to deaden it. There's not going to be anything there, but a little sizzle.

[00:31:43] Andrew: Well, all right, guys, we appreciate y'all sticking in Daniel nine might go at each other for a couple more hours after the episode's over. So we won't make you listen to that unless you really, really want to, you can reach out and we'll shoot you screenshots or something, but until then we should have another episode for you updating how the challenge is actually going sometimes.

[00:32:01] Andrew: Mid June. So keep your eyes peeled, send over your thoughts on push-ups pull-ups running and getting a lot of steps in and we look forward to connecting with you guys soon. Have a good one.